{"id":145135,"date":"2024-09-30T22:32:50","date_gmt":"2024-09-30T22:32:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/09\/30\/welsh-tories-stephen-crabb-suggests-andrew-rt-davies-should-go\/"},"modified":"2024-09-30T22:32:50","modified_gmt":"2024-09-30T22:32:50","slug":"welsh-tories-stephen-crabb-suggests-andrew-rt-davies-should-go","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/09\/30\/welsh-tories-stephen-crabb-suggests-andrew-rt-davies-should-go\/","title":{"rendered":"Welsh Tories: Stephen Crabb suggests Andrew RT Davies should go"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"160\" height=\"90\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/www.bbc.com\/bbcx\/grey-placeholder.png?fit=160,90&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Welsh Tories: Stephen Crabb suggests Andrew RT Davies should go\" title=\"Welsh Tories: Stephen Crabb suggests Andrew RT Davies should go\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 ejjhCR\">\n<div data-testid=\"hero-image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/8744\/live\/30231bb0-7f16-11ef-ba82-c1e04bde03d4.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/8744\/live\/30231bb0-7f16-11ef-ba82-c1e04bde03d4.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/8744\/live\/30231bb0-7f16-11ef-ba82-c1e04bde03d4.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/8744\/live\/30231bb0-7f16-11ef-ba82-c1e04bde03d4.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/8744\/live\/30231bb0-7f16-11ef-ba82-c1e04bde03d4.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/8744\/live\/30231bb0-7f16-11ef-ba82-c1e04bde03d4.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/8744\/live\/30231bb0-7f16-11ef-ba82-c1e04bde03d4.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/8744\/live\/30231bb0-7f16-11ef-ba82-c1e04bde03d4.jpg.webp\" loading=\"eager\" alt=\"Senedd Cymru Welsh Conservative Senedd leader Andrew RT Davies stands up as he speaks in the Welsh Parliament's debating chamber\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 efFcac\"\/><span class=\"sc-a34861b-2 fxQYxK\">Senedd Cymru<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 cvNhQw\">Andrew RT Davies has been Welsh Conservative leader since 2021, in his second stint in the role<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">A Conservative former cabinet minister has cast doubt on whether Andrew RT Davies should lead the Tories into the next Senedd election.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Stephen Crabb warned that the 2026 vote would be &#8220;tough&#8221; for the party, and that it &#8220;probably&#8221; needed a leadership &#8220;refresh&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;If the party needs to change in order to survive, it&#8217;s harder to do that when you always have the same personalities in place,&#8221; said Crabb, who was in the cabinet as Welsh secretary and also work and pensions secretary.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Senedd Tory leader refuted Crabb&#8217;s comments, saying he was &#8220;up for the fight in 2026&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Davies is currently on his second stint as leader of the Welsh Conservatives in the Senedd: his first ran from 2012 to 2018, and he returned in 2021.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He has been under pressure in recent months after he was accused of<!-- --><a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/c4gx010pk7no\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\"> &#8220;Islamophobic race-baiting&#8221; by a Muslim group<!-- --><\/a>, and <!-- --><a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/c74j84y9xqgo\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">over inappropriate language from one of his politicians<!-- --><\/a>.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Speaking to <!-- --><a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/sounds\/play\/m0023g1b\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">James Williams on BBC Radio Wales Breakfast<!-- --><\/a>, Crabb warned that the Conservatives were not well positioned for the next Senedd election in 2026.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;I think it&#8217;s going to be a tough Senedd election. Reform will be looking to build on the gains they&#8217;ve made electorally&#8230; there was an awful lot of people voting for Reform in July.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He said the party had not been &#8220;good enough at providing alternative policies&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Asked if Davies was the right leader for the next Senedd election, Crabb said: &#8220;I don&#8217;t like making it about personalities.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But he added: &#8220;If you&#8217;re asking me do I think there needs to be refresh of the Welsh party and the Welsh leadership, probably yes.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;If the party needs to change in order to survive, it&#8217;s harder to do that when you always have the same personalities in place.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He ruled himself out of standing in the 2026 Senedd election: &#8220;I spent the last couple of months pursuing other options.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;I think to do that, you&#8217;ve got to do it with a single mind and not with one foot stuck in the past.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Andrew RT Davies told BBC Wales he is still the right person to lead the Welsh Conservatives into the next Senedd election.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He refuted Stephen Crabb\u2019s comments and said he was \u201cup for the fight in 2026\u201d.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Asked if he was the right man for the election, he said: \u201cVery much so. I\u2019m up for making that change agenda resonating in communities across the whole of Wales.\u201d<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He added: \u201cI never need to look over my shoulder because I\u2019ve got a mirror to look in all the time [to see] whose behind me.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">\u201cBecause politics is always about making sure that no one gets too close to you, otherwise the knife might go in.\u201d<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">One former MP said it was &#8220;not a time for further turmoil and infighting&#8221; in the party.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Asked if she agreed with the suggestion from former Welsh Secretary Stephen Crabb that Andrew RT Davies should go, the former Tory MP for Wrexham Sarah Atherton said: &#8220;We need to prove to the country that we are unified and cohesive going forward.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Welsh Conservatives&#8217; Senedd group chairman, Sam Kurtz, said he and the Senedd group had &#8220;full confidence&#8221; in Davies.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;I think we&#8217;re working tirelessly to come forward with a plethora of policies that will be attractive to all voters in Wales in 2026,&#8221; the Member of the Senedd for Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire added.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"sc-518485e5-0 kRvAla\">&#8216;War on woke&#8217;<!-- --><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The discussion comes after former Downing Street PR chief Guto Harri said the Conservatives in the Senedd needed &#8220;new leadership&#8221; .<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He said they were not just &#8220;there to draw a pay cheque&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Crabb was MP for Preseli Pembrokeshire until the summer general election, when he lost his seat, as did all other Welsh Conservatives.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He had served as chairman of the Commons&#8217; Welsh Affairs Select Committee, and in frontbench roles under David Cameron and Theresa May.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The former MP spoke as his party met in Birmingham for its annual UK party conference, <!-- --><a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/cwyl3nllnryo\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">amid a leadership contest to replace former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak<!-- --><\/a>.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Crabb said it had been clear the party was going to suffer a &#8220;massive defeat  in July&#8221; because of a &#8220;huge loss of trust in the Conservative government&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He hoped the next Tory leader would &#8220;occupy the centre ground&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;Culture wars, the war on woke,&#8221; he said, &#8220;isn&#8217;t the thing that&#8217;s going to persuade somebody languishing on a hospital waiting list that they&#8217;ll see public services improve.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Separately on Monday, UK Tory leadership contender Tom Tugendhat promised that he would include a Conservative Senedd member in his shadow cabinet, alongside others from the Scottish Parliament and councils in England, if he was to win.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/ced0vp2z38jo\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Senedd Cymru Andrew RT Davies has been Welsh Conservative leader since 2021, in his second stint in the role A Conservative former cabinet minister has cast doubt on whether Andrew RT Davies should lead the Tories into the next Senedd election. 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