{"id":150760,"date":"2024-10-09T19:35:04","date_gmt":"2024-10-09T19:35:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/10\/09\/labours-new-deal-for-workers-a-fight-postponed\/"},"modified":"2024-10-09T19:35:04","modified_gmt":"2024-10-09T19:35:04","slug":"labours-new-deal-for-workers-a-fight-postponed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/10\/09\/labours-new-deal-for-workers-a-fight-postponed\/","title":{"rendered":"Labour&#8217;s new deal for workers: A fight postponed?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"160\" height=\"90\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/www.bbc.com\/bbcx\/grey-placeholder.png?fit=160,90&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Labour&#8217;s new deal for workers: A fight postponed?\" title=\"Labour&#8217;s new deal for workers: A fight postponed?\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 EXUng\">\n<div data-testid=\"hero-image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/bdb7\/live\/56b2cb50-866d-11ef-b965-0ff2a4ab59c0.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/bdb7\/live\/56b2cb50-866d-11ef-b965-0ff2a4ab59c0.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/bdb7\/live\/56b2cb50-866d-11ef-b965-0ff2a4ab59c0.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/bdb7\/live\/56b2cb50-866d-11ef-b965-0ff2a4ab59c0.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/bdb7\/live\/56b2cb50-866d-11ef-b965-0ff2a4ab59c0.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/bdb7\/live\/56b2cb50-866d-11ef-b965-0ff2a4ab59c0.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/bdb7\/live\/56b2cb50-866d-11ef-b965-0ff2a4ab59c0.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/bdb7\/live\/56b2cb50-866d-11ef-b965-0ff2a4ab59c0.jpg.webp\" loading=\"eager\" alt=\"Getty Images Sir Keir Starmer chats to smiling workers in overalls on a visit to a glass factory in Chester\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 efFcac\"\/><span class=\"sc-a34861b-2 fxQYxK\">Getty Images<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">After a torrid few weeks, Labour now has the opportunity to get on the front foot, and deliver on a major election pledge.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The government will fulfil their promise to bring forward legislation on workers\u2019 rights within 100 days.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But in some cases employees will have to wait nearer to 1,000 days to enjoy new rights.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The new Employment Bill, to be published on Thursday, apparently will run to 150 pages.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But despite the length, much of the devilish detail is yet to be decided.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Keir Starmer\u2019s &#8220;changed&#8221; Labour Party has promised to be both pro-worker and pro business.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Trying to strike that balance means there will be further consultation on some of the bill\u2019s key components.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Behind the scenes there has been a series of &#8220;roundtables&#8221; involving ministers, union officials \u2013 and sometimes their leaders \u2013 and business groups.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But one participant told the BBC that while there had been engagement with a broad range of groups, there had been little genuine consultation.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The legislation \u2013 as Labour has promised \u2013 will represent the biggest uplift in workers\u2019 rights in a generation.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">To be fair,  this claim could be honoured just by abolishing Conservative legislation requiring minimum turnouts in strike ballots and minimum service levels during industrial action.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But many new measures won\u2019t be introduced swiftly.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The bill itself is not expected to pass into law until June or July next year.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Consultations will continue on some issues beyond this &#8211; with changes implemented subsequently in secondary legislation.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">And new rights to challenge unfair dismissal will not come in to effect until autumn 2026.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">One business group has told the BBC they will continue to push their case during the consultation periods \u2013 &#8220;there will still be a fight, but the fight has been postponed&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"sc-518485e5-0 kRvAla\">Probation period<!-- --><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Unions have asked for \u2013 and will be given \u2013 new rights for workers from day one of their employment.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">This includes rights to sick pay, parental leave and to claim unfair dismissal.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Federation of Small Businesses has pointed out that their members \u2013 rather than bigger companies \u2013 are likely to find this new regime the most difficult to cope with.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">They don\u2019t have big HR departments, and they can struggle to cover staff absences.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The small business group will continue to argue that anything that makes it more risky to employ new workers will be bad for growth.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Politically, that will make it more difficult for Labour to claim they are now the party of business and not just the unions.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">So while there will be a right from the first day in work to claim unfair dismissal, the compromise the government has hatched is a &#8220;statutory probation period,&#8221; during which time it will be easier for employers to dismiss someone &#8220;fairly&#8221; than it would be after the probation period expires.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">There would be a &#8220;lower bar&#8221; for employers, as one source close to the discussions put it.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The length of the probation period would be between six and 12 months \u2013 with the precise length to be battled over during a period of consultation.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Businesses are pressing for longer &#8211; and at least one union is calling for no probation period at all.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 jFCfG\">\n<div data-testid=\"image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/04a5\/live\/0969a680-8671-11ef-92fd-27c0cd0dd571.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/04a5\/live\/0969a680-8671-11ef-92fd-27c0cd0dd571.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/04a5\/live\/0969a680-8671-11ef-92fd-27c0cd0dd571.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/04a5\/live\/0969a680-8671-11ef-92fd-27c0cd0dd571.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/04a5\/live\/0969a680-8671-11ef-92fd-27c0cd0dd571.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/04a5\/live\/0969a680-8671-11ef-92fd-27c0cd0dd571.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/04a5\/live\/0969a680-8671-11ef-92fd-27c0cd0dd571.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/04a5\/live\/0969a680-8671-11ef-92fd-27c0cd0dd571.jpg.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Getty Images Protestors outside Parliament holding placards criticising the employment practices of P&amp;O ferries.\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 efFcac\"\/><span class=\"sc-a34861b-2 fxQYxK\">Getty Images<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 cvNhQw\">Demonstrators outside Parliament protesting the employment practices of P&amp;O ferries<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p><h2 class=\"sc-518485e5-0 kRvAla\">Zero-hours contracts<!-- --><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">There are other areas where attempts to be both pro-business and pro-worker will come under strain.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">There will be an ongoing debate over the proposal to ban &#8220;exploitative&#8221; zero-hours contracts.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The government\u2019s plan is that once an employee establishes a pattern of regular working over a 12 week period, an employer would be obliged to offer a regular contract of employment.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Workers who prefer zero hours would be able to refuse &#8211; there will be no obligation to accept.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Some business groups would prefer this to be &#8220;a right to request&#8221; rather than an obligation.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Unite union is not pleased as it thinks that the word &#8220;exploitative\u2019 will be used as loophole by some companies.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">And Unite is also concerned that the practice of &#8220;fire and rehire&#8221; &#8211; getting rid of workers and re-employing them on lower pay and\/or terms and conditions \u2013 will still be allowed in exceptional circumstances.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The union is describing this as a &#8220;bad bosses\u2019 charter&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But for some companies, they will claim that new restrictions could make them unviable &#8211; and that poorer pay is better than no job for workers.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"sc-518485e5-0 kRvAla\">Too difficult?<!-- --><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">A whole range of measures flagged in<!-- --><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/labour.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/LABOURS-PLAN-TO-MAKE-WORK-PAY.pdf\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\"> Labour\u2019s pre-election &#8220;Making Work Pay&#8221; document<!-- --><\/a> \u2013 the supposed blueprint for the legislation &#8211; have been put in the &#8220;too difficult&#8221; box for the time being.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">This includes measures to make it easier to ensure equal pay between in-house and &#8220;contracted out&#8221; staff who do similar jobs in public services.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">There was also a commitment to create a &#8220;single status of worker&#8221; \u2013 in part to protect people who are technically self-employed but in fact largely work for one employer but with fewer entitlements than employees.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">This is seen as legally complex and will be dealt with separately from Thursday\u2019s legislation.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">And the &#8220;right to switch off&#8221; phones, emails and texts at the end of the working day won\u2019t necessarily be a &#8220;right&#8221; after all.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Instead, it\u2019s likely the government will ask employers to come forward with &#8220;a code of conduct&#8221;. The measure won\u2019t be in the bill.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">When the bill is unveiled, Labour will hope that discordant voices &#8211; from Unite on the one hand to the Federation of Small Businesses on the other \u2013 are muffled by the sound of approval from most unions.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Many will hail a rebalancing of the relationship between employer and employee.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But when the applause dies down, behind closed doors many arguments will continue over many months.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">And it\u2019s unclear who will triumph when long periods of consultation close.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But for now, Labour will hope that the mere existence of new legislation will indicate the party does intend to honour its promise of &#8220;change&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/c153dzy1kj4o\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Getty Images After a torrid few weeks, Labour now has the opportunity to get on the front foot, and deliver on a major election pledge. 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