{"id":154523,"date":"2024-10-15T19:24:10","date_gmt":"2024-10-15T19:24:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/10\/15\/end-of-hereditary-peers-moves-one-step-closer\/"},"modified":"2024-10-15T19:24:10","modified_gmt":"2024-10-15T19:24:10","slug":"end-of-hereditary-peers-moves-one-step-closer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/10\/15\/end-of-hereditary-peers-moves-one-step-closer\/","title":{"rendered":"End of hereditary peers moves one step closer"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"160\" height=\"90\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/www.bbc.com\/bbcx\/grey-placeholder.png?resize=160,90&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"End of hereditary peers moves one step closer\" title=\"End of hereditary peers moves one step closer\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 ejjhCR\">\n<div data-testid=\"hero-image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/aad4\/live\/ca096750-8b16-11ef-a81b-b1eda9741da3.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/aad4\/live\/ca096750-8b16-11ef-a81b-b1eda9741da3.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/aad4\/live\/ca096750-8b16-11ef-a81b-b1eda9741da3.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/aad4\/live\/ca096750-8b16-11ef-a81b-b1eda9741da3.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/aad4\/live\/ca096750-8b16-11ef-a81b-b1eda9741da3.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/aad4\/live\/ca096750-8b16-11ef-a81b-b1eda9741da3.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/aad4\/live\/ca096750-8b16-11ef-a81b-b1eda9741da3.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/aad4\/live\/ca096750-8b16-11ef-a81b-b1eda9741da3.jpg.webp\" loading=\"eager\" alt=\"Getty Images Law Lords of House of Lords in wigs and robes at State Opening of Parliament\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 efFcac\"\/><span class=\"sc-a34861b-2 fxQYxK\">Getty Images<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 cvNhQw\">Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has pledged to replace the House of Lords with an elected chamber<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Over hundreds of years, the House of Lords has had its fair share of scrapes with extinction events.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">It was abolished in 1649, following the execution of King Charles I, by a law that declared it \u201cuseless and dangerous to the people of England\u201d.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Lords was resurrected 11 years later and remains largely intact to this day &#8211; to the annoyance of reformist governments past and present.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But now there is a newfound zeal for change following Labour\u2019s general election victory.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">On Tuesday, a draft law that would remove hereditary peers from the Lords passed to its next stage.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">There are 92 seats for hereditary peers who have inherited their titles from their families, and in its general election manifesto, Labour promised to scrap them.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">It would be the next phase of reforms started by the last Labour government, which removed the majority of hereditary peers from the chamber in 1999, leaving only 92 in a compromise deal with the Conservatives.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Labour government is describing the bill as \u201cthe largest constitutional reform to the UK Parliament in a quarter of a century\u201d.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"sc-518485e5-0 kRvAla\">&#8216;Gold-plated Narnia&#8217;<!-- --><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Introducing the bill on its second outing, Constitutional Affairs Minister Nick Thomas-Symonds said it was a change that was \u201clong overdue\u201d.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">\u201cIt isn\u2019t right that what was a temporary arrangement in 1999 should last any longer,\u201d the minister said.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He said it was \u201cindefeasible for people to sit in our legislature as an act of birth\u201d and it was \u201cimportant that our second chamber represents modern Britain\u201d.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">That didn\u2019t go far enough for SNP MP Pete Wishart though.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Invoking the spirit of 1649, Wishart asked whether Labour would abolish the Lords altogether, which the SNP is calling for.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Wishart: &#8220;What we have down there is an embarrassment and an unreformable laughing stock, a plaything of prime ministers and the personification of a dying establishment that represents another age.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;That is why I am so proud that my party will never put anybody in that red leather-upholstered, gold-plated Narnia.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Thomas-Symonds said: \u201cThe [Labour] manifesto sets out that we should have an alternative second chamber that\u2019s more representative of the nations and regions.\u201d<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"sc-518485e5-0 kRvAla\">&#8216;Tried and tested&#8217;<!-- --><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Now less restrained in opposition, some Conservative MPs were urging Labour to be bolder, including Sir Gavin Williamson.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The former education and defence secretary asked why <!-- --><a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/c033dpqmnrgo\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">Labour\u2019s plan to impose a retirement age of 80 on peers<!-- --><\/a> wasn\u2019t in the bill.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">\u201cI\u2019m willing to defy my whips in order to deliver reform and change many of us want to see,\u201d Sir Gavin said.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Other Conservatives were far more, well, conservative, including shadow deputy prime minister Sir Oliver Dowden.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Sir Oliver &#8211; who tried and failed to amend the bill, and stop it in its tracks &#8211; said the government was \u201cobsessed with change for change&#8217;s sake\u201d.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He told MPs: &#8220;The checks and balances of the Lords, its tried and tested conventions &#8211; work.\u201d<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Ultimately, MPs voted to approve the bill, meaning it progresses to the committee stage of its journey into law.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The real resistance is expected to come later, when the bill arrives in the Lords.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The hold-out hereditary peers may not go quietly. The battles of old rekindled.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Back in 1999, one hereditary Tory peer, the Earl of Onslow, <!-- --><a target=\"_self\" href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/uk_politics\/193180.stm\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">said he would behave like a \u201cfootball hooligan\u201d<!-- --><\/a> in opposing New Labour\u2019s abolition plan.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">It was watered down eventually, despite former Prime Minister Tony Blair&#8217;s manifesto promise to end the right of hereditary peers to sit and vote in the upper house.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Twenty-five years on, another Labour manifesto pledge could finish the job.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/cx2kvewx8lyo\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Getty Images Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has pledged to replace the House of Lords with an elected chamber Over hundreds of years, the House of Lords has had its fair share of scrapes with extinction events. 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