{"id":1561,"date":"2024-03-17T00:42:28","date_gmt":"2024-03-17T00:42:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/03\/17\/how-kyrsten-sinemas-decision-makes-democrats-2024-senate-map-tighter-cnn-politics\/"},"modified":"2024-03-17T00:42:28","modified_gmt":"2024-03-17T00:42:28","slug":"how-kyrsten-sinemas-decision-makes-democrats-2024-senate-map-tighter-cnn-politics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/03\/17\/how-kyrsten-sinemas-decision-makes-democrats-2024-senate-map-tighter-cnn-politics\/","title":{"rendered":"How Kyrsten Sinema\u2019s decision makes Democrats\u2019 2024 Senate map tighter | CNN Politics"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"256\" height=\"144\" src=\"https:\/\/i3.wp.com\/cdn.cnn.com\/cnnnext\/dam\/assets\/220731192353-kyrsten-sinema-democrats-agenda-biden-hp-video.jpg?fit=256,144&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"How Kyrsten Sinema\u2019s decision makes Democrats\u2019 2024 Senate map tighter | CNN Politics\" title=\"How Kyrsten Sinema\u2019s decision makes Democrats\u2019 2024 Senate map tighter | CNN Politics\" \/><\/div>\n<div data-editable=\"content\" itemprop=\"articleBody\" data-reorderable=\"content\">\n<p>\n    <cite class=\"source__cite\"><br \/>\n      <span class=\"source__location\" data-editable=\"location\"\/><br \/>\n      <span class=\"source__text\" data-editable=\"source\">CNN<\/span><br \/>\n        \u00a0\u2014\u00a0<br \/>\n    <\/cite>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_68A00F0B-00A1-5956-26D3-FCDC3DFAB2E6@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2022\/12\/10\/politics\/kyrsten-sinema-democratic-party-what-matters\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema <\/a>decided to shake up the political world on Friday by becoming an independent. The former Democrat is still caucusing with the party in the Senate, so the Democratic caucus still has 51 members. Now, instead of 49 Democrats and two independents within their ranks, the caucus has 48 Democrats and three independents.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_DE1F42D2-CDCB-2683-4B37-FCE773FB9996@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            But that simple math hides a more clouded picture for Democrats and for Sinema herself. Sinema\u2019s interests are no longer necessarily the Democrats\u2019 best interests in the next Congress, and the 2024 Senate map became even more complicated for Democrats with Sinema\u2019s decision.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_4D051981-1417-1B38-5D76-FCE77403B2ED@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            To be clear, Sinema has always been a thorn in the Democrats side during her time in Congress. Over the last two years, Democrats have had to almost always make sure that any bill or nomination had Sinema\u2019s support to have any chance of passing. That\u2019s the math when you have only 50 Senate seats in a 100-seat chamber. A lot of bills and nominations <a href=\"https:\/\/rollcall.com\/2022\/03\/01\/party-unity-vote-studies-underscore-polarized-state-of-the-union\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">were never voted on<\/a> without Sinema and Manchin\u2019s backing.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_AD898824-C55F-EBFD-4730-FCE774096F27@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            From 2013 (Sinema\u2019s first term in Congress) to 2020, Sinema <a href=\"https:\/\/media.cq.com\/votewatch\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">voted against her party <\/a>more than almost any other member of Congress. She stayed with the party about 69% of the time on votes where at least one half of the Democrats voted differently than half of Republicans. The average Democrat voted with their party about 90% of the time on these votes.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_6F060D63-A600-1B4E-E94E-FCE7740BC556@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            It\u2019s quite possible that Sinema\u2019s percentage of sticking with the party will lower now that she is an independent. Consider the example of former Sen. Joe Lieberman. The longtime Democrat won reelection as a third-party candidate in 2006, after losing the Democratic primary to a left-wing challenger (the now fairly moderate Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont)\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_7F3BC099-C1C0-4738-6C71-FCE77411BECC@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            Relative to the average Senate Democrat, Lieberman voted with the party 10 points less of the time after becoming an independent than he had in his last term as a Democrat. If that happens with Sinema, she\u2019ll become even more conservative than West Virginia\u2019s Joe Manchin (the most conservative member of the Democratic caucus).\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_FFF3AE5E-64B5-76B0-FC8A-FCE77413ECFD@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            This would make sense because the incentive structure is now very different for Sinema. Ahead of a 2024 reelection campaign, she no longer has to worry about winning a Democratic primary. Sinema has to worry about building a coalition of Democrats, independents and Republicans. That is far more difficult to do if you\u2019re seen as too liberal.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_09608E71-ED7B-DDBE-6BFD-FCE7741A1574@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            Indeed, the big reason Sinema became an independent is because it would have been very difficult to win a Democratic primary. Her approval rating among Arizona Democrats in an<a href=\"https:\/\/cces.gov.harvard.edu\/data\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> autumn 2022 CES<\/a> poll stood at just 25%. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2022\/12\/09\/sinema-party-arizona-senate-2024-00073301\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A number of Democrats<\/a> (e.g. Rep. Ruben Gallego and Rep. Greg Stanton) were already lining up to potentially challenge her in a primary.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_B647C89A-C346-E5E2-A445-FCE774203CB8@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            A question now is whether Sinema\u2019s decision to become an independent will dissuade some of those Democrats from running. The idea being that Sinema still caucuses with the Democrats, and Democrats wouldn\u2019t want to split the Democratic vote in a general election allowing a Republican to win in a purple state like Arizona.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_9F26BCF5-E39C-2222-9FD3-FCE774222FFC@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            It\u2019s an interesting bet from Sinema. After all, Democrats usually don\u2019t run a candidate against independent Sen. Bernie Sanders in Vermont. The Democrats who run against independent Sen. Angus King in Maine have not gained traction in recent elections. Don\u2019t forget the aforementioned Lieberman won as a third-party candidate.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_B45F222C-95A6-FB8D-CA79-FCE774280BF7@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            The electoral math structure was and is totally different in these circumstances, however. Sanders wouldn\u2019t attract a left-wing Democratic challenger because he is already so progressive. Lieberman declared his third-party candidacy after the primary, so Republicans didn\u2019t have time to find a well-known challenger. Republicans also knew that Lieberman, who was an ardent supporter of the Iraq War, was probably the best they could hope for in the deeply Democratic state of Connecticut.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_ABE5BD00-8865-8530-3993-FCE7742A9151@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            This leaves the King example. King, like Sinema, is a moderate from not a deeply blue or red state. There\u2019s just one problem for Sinema in this analogy: King is popular. He had previously won the governorship twice as an independent and has almost always sported high favorables.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_3FF0B679-B2A2-52CB-6065-FCE7743178F6@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            Sinema is not popular at all. The <a href=\"https:\/\/cces.gov.harvard.edu\/data\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CES poll<\/a> had her approval rating below her disapproval rating with Democrats, independents and Republicans in Arizona. Sinema\u2019s overall approval stood at 25% to a disapproval rating of 58%. Other polling isn\u2019t nearly as dire for Sinema, but the average of it all has her firmly being more unpopular than popular.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_BC077F29-28AA-6D77-A5B9-FCE77433D7E6@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            Put another way, Sinema\u2019s current numbers are probably not going to scare off many challengers from either the Democratic or Republican side. Additionally, there\u2019s zero reason for Democrats to cede the ground to Sinema because it would keep a Republican from winning. It isn\u2019t clear at all that Sinema can win as an independent.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_1F2BDD55-F7B3-B87B-EEBD-FCE7743AC8A5@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            What Sinema\u2019s move did accomplish is that it made the electoral math a lot more complicated in Arizona and therefore nationally. Having two people in the race who are going to caucus with the Democratic Party likely makes it more difficult for the Democrats to win.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_A0B46A06-6ECC-67B8-78DB-FCE774418C4B@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            One potential worrisome example for Democrats in a purple state (at least then) was the 2010 Florida Senate race. Then Republican Gov. Charlie Crist decided to run as an independent after it became clear he wouldn\u2019t beat the more conservative Republican Marco Rubio in a Republican primary. Crist, who said he would caucus with the Democrats, split the Democratic vote with then Rep. Kendrick Meek, and Rubio cruised to a win.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_FE7BD82C-D5EB-8B31-2D5E-FCE774420E48@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            I should point out that Democrats certainly have a chance. The 1968 Alaska Senate race, for example, featured two Democrats (Mike Gravel and then Sen. Ernest Gruening as write-in). Gravel won in the state which Republican Richard Nixon carried, too, by a few points.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_293B6D29-4402-EE6E-B5A5-FCE774496FDA@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            In 2024, Arizona Republicans could nominate an extreme candidate that flames out. They just lost every major statewide race in 2022 because of who they nominated.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_F272F9A4-B11D-1D53-EAB2-FCE7744BFDB3@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            Don\u2019t dismiss the possibility too that Sinema could win like Harry Byrd did in the <a href=\"https:\/\/vig.coopercenter.org\/sites\/vig\/files\/Virginia_News_Letter_1971_Vol._48_No._2.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">1970 Virginia Senate election<\/a> when both parties nominated candidates. Maybe voters will like Sinema\u2019s new independent registration.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_847379E2-558C-A5EA-52F6-FCE774523DD5@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            Sinema also could find herself flaming out when running in the general election without a major party backing her like Gruening did in 1968 or then Sen. Jacob Javits in the 1980 New York Senate race.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_E5545177-42B3-A29A-F86F-FCE774590275@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            We just don\u2019t know.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_935E949A-8CE0-5DF6-8387-FCE7745B7353@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            All that said, the Democrats already have a difficult map heading into 2024. Depending on whether the Democrats win the presidency (and have a Democratic vice president who can break Senate ties), they can afford to lose zero to one Senate seats and maintain a majority.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_07D1F756-6756-AA23-006D-FCE774629A69@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            The vast majority, 23 of the 34, senators up for reelection in 2024 caucus with the Democrats. An abnormally large number (7) represent states Republican Donald Trump won at least once. This includes Arizona.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder\" data-uri=\"archive.cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/paragraph_6851DE0F-95D3-3FDE-3748-FCE77464813E@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n            With Sinema\u2019s break from the Democratic party, the road is, if nothing else, curvier for Democrats.\n    <\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>CNN \u00a0\u2014\u00a0 Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema decided to shake up the political world on Friday by becoming an independent. The former Democrat is still caucusing with the party in the Senate, so the Democratic caucus still has 51 members. 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