{"id":161600,"date":"2024-10-25T21:20:11","date_gmt":"2024-10-25T21:20:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/10\/25\/working-people-and-labours-muddle-with-messaging\/"},"modified":"2024-10-25T21:20:11","modified_gmt":"2024-10-25T21:20:11","slug":"working-people-and-labours-muddle-with-messaging","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/10\/25\/working-people-and-labours-muddle-with-messaging\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;Working people&#8217; and Labour&#8217;s muddle with messaging"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"432\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727899.jpg?20241025203159&amp;fit=768,432&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"&#8216;Working people&#8217; and Labour&#8217;s muddle with messaging\" title=\"&#8216;Working people&#8217; and Labour&#8217;s muddle with messaging\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component-name=\"ui-article-body\" data-highlight-intro=\"true\">\n<p>&#8220;Working people.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a fairly broad phrase that&#8217;s been banded around a lot this week in light of <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/topic\/budget-5954\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the budget<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/topic\/labour-5700\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Labour<\/a><\/strong> actually mentioned the term working people 21 times in <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/labour-launches-manifesto-as-sir-keir-starmer-pledges-to-end-desperate-era-of-gimmicks-and-rebuild-britain-13152379\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">their manifesto<\/a><\/strong>, so you&#8217;d think they would have a pretty concrete idea of who they have in their mind&#8217;s eye when pushed on their definition.<\/p>\n<p>But yesterday when <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/sir-keir-starmer-says-those-with-assets-not-working-people-paving-way-for-possible-tax-rises-13240521\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">asked by Sky News<\/a><\/strong> whether anyone whose income derived from assets, such as shares or property, could be considered a working person, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/topic\/keir-starmer-6820\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sir Keir Starmer<\/a><\/strong> said: &#8220;Well, they wouldn&#8217;t come within my definition.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>At a market in Hitchin, Hertfordshire some market traders have been working since 6am and all of them have no issues describing how they believe they are working people.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I would describe myself as working people, but everybody works in different ways,&#8221; one man says.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-article-image\">\n<figure class=\"sdc-article-image__figure\">\n<div class=\"sdc-article-image__wrapper\" data-aspect-ratio=\"16\/9\"><\/div><figcaption class=\"ui-media-caption\">\n        <span class=\"u-hide-visually\">Image:<\/span><br \/>\n        <span class=\"ui-media-caption__caption-text\">One man says he works at his market stall 14-hours a day<br \/>\n        <\/span><br \/>\n      <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>He admits he has some shares which he describes as insignificant but says he works 14-hour days on a market stall and does not consider those shares capable of rendering him ineligible to fit Sir Keir&#8217;s description.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;ve worked all your life and you&#8217;ve invested in your future, why shouldn&#8217;t you be allowed to keep it,&#8221; he says.<\/p>\n<p>Watching the clip of the prime minister on her phone, a woman nods in agreement with Keir Starmer on most of his descriptions, but she&#8217;s confused at why shares and property are a problem.<\/p>\n<p>She says she would like to have a clearer definition from him.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-article-image\">\n<figure class=\"sdc-article-image__figure\">\n<div class=\"sdc-article-image__wrapper\" data-aspect-ratio=\"16\/9\">\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sdc-article-image__item\" loading=\"lazy\" intrinsicsize=\"768x432\" src=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727900.jpg?20241025203215\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/384x216\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727900.jpg?20241025203215 380w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727900.jpg?20241025203215 760w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/1600x900\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727900.jpg?20241025203215 1024w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/2048x1152\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727900.jpg?20241025203215 2048w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 1024px, 100vw\" alt=\"Hitchin market\"\/>\n    <\/div><figcaption class=\"ui-media-caption\">\n        <span class=\"u-hide-visually\">Image:<\/span><br \/>\n        <span class=\"ui-media-caption__caption-text\">One woman says she would like a clearer definition from the prime minister<br \/>\n        <\/span><br \/>\n      <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-article-image\">\n<figure class=\"sdc-article-image__figure\">\n<div class=\"sdc-article-image__wrapper\" data-aspect-ratio=\"16\/9\">\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sdc-article-image__item\" loading=\"lazy\" intrinsicsize=\"768x432\" src=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727892.jpg?20241025203053\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/384x216\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727892.jpg?20241025203053 380w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727892.jpg?20241025203053 760w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/1600x900\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727892.jpg?20241025203053 1024w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/2048x1152\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727892.jpg?20241025203053 2048w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 1024px, 100vw\" alt=\"Hitchin market\"\/>\n    <\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>&#8220;If they&#8217;ve worked for it all their life then that&#8217;s fine, if they&#8217;ve had it handed down to them, generation after generation, I think that&#8217;s a completely different thing,&#8221; she says.<\/p>\n<p>Another man says he disagrees with Sir Keir&#8217;s definition, adding if people are getting money through shares, it is a &#8220;bonus&#8221; and means you have been &#8220;clever with your money&#8221;.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-article-image\">\n<figure class=\"sdc-article-image__figure\">\n<div class=\"sdc-article-image__wrapper\" data-aspect-ratio=\"16\/9\">\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sdc-article-image__item\" loading=\"lazy\" intrinsicsize=\"768x432\" src=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727898.jpg?20241025203139\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/384x216\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727898.jpg?20241025203139 380w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727898.jpg?20241025203139 760w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/1600x900\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727898.jpg?20241025203139 1024w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/2048x1152\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727898.jpg?20241025203139 2048w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 1024px, 100vw\" alt=\"Hitchin market\"\/>\n    <\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>A third man at the market tells me the only thing he hears about Sir Keir is that his father was a toolmaker.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;All you hear about is &#8216;Oh, I&#8217;m the son of a toolmaker&#8217;, well so am I. I ain&#8217;t rich, I&#8217;m not a rich man, they&#8217;re just not in the real world no more. They&#8217;re just so out of touch,&#8221; he says.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-article-image\">\n<figure class=\"sdc-article-image__figure\">\n<div class=\"sdc-article-image__wrapper\" data-aspect-ratio=\"16\/9\">\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sdc-article-image__item\" loading=\"lazy\" intrinsicsize=\"768x432\" src=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727901.jpg?20241025203234\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/384x216\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727901.jpg?20241025203234 380w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727901.jpg?20241025203234 760w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/1600x900\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727901.jpg?20241025203234 1024w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/2048x1152\/skynews-hitchin-market_6727901.jpg?20241025203234 2048w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 1024px, 100vw\" alt=\"Hitchin market\"\/>\n    <\/div><figcaption class=\"ui-media-caption\">\n        <span class=\"u-hide-visually\">Image:<\/span><br \/>\n        <span class=\"ui-media-caption__caption-text\">One man says he isn&#8217;t rich, and his father was a toolmaker like Sir Keir<br \/>\n        <\/span><br \/>\n      <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>With the budget in touching distance, this is not just about semantics, this could actually matter.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s because Labour said in their manifesto they would not raise taxes for working people and they continue to stick to this ironclad commitment with the budget days away.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-article-image\">\n<figure class=\"sdc-article-image__figure\">\n<div class=\"sdc-article-image__wrapper\" data-aspect-ratio=\"16\/9\">\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sdc-article-image__item\" loading=\"lazy\" intrinsicsize=\"768x432\" src=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-the-budget-2024-promo_6726617.jpg?20241024164150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/384x216\/skynews-the-budget-2024-promo_6726617.jpg?20241024164150 380w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/768x432\/skynews-the-budget-2024-promo_6726617.jpg?20241024164150 760w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/1600x900\/skynews-the-budget-2024-promo_6726617.jpg?20241024164150 1024w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/10\/2048x1152\/skynews-the-budget-2024-promo_6726617.jpg?20241024164150 2048w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 1024px, 100vw\" alt=\"The Budget, on Sky News\"\/>\n    <\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>Depending on who the government class as working people, it could open the door for potential hikes to capital gains tax, national insurance raised for employers, even potentially inheritance tax.<\/p>\n<p>But we will not really know until Chancellor <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/topic\/rachel-reeves-10866\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rachel Reeves<\/a><\/strong> reads out her budget next week.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/working-people-and-labours-muddle-with-messaging-13241273\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Working people.&#8221; It&#8217;s a fairly broad phrase that&#8217;s been banded around a lot this week in light of the budget. Labour actually mentioned the term working people 21 times in their manifesto, so you&#8217;d think they would have a pretty concrete idea of who they have in their mind&#8217;s eye when pushed on their definition. 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