{"id":197317,"date":"2024-12-18T01:34:22","date_gmt":"2024-12-18T01:34:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/12\/18\/chris-mason-elon-musk-donation-talks-with-reform-uk-raise-questions-over-rules\/"},"modified":"2024-12-18T01:34:23","modified_gmt":"2024-12-18T01:34:23","slug":"chris-mason-elon-musk-donation-talks-with-reform-uk-raise-questions-over-rules","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/12\/18\/chris-mason-elon-musk-donation-talks-with-reform-uk-raise-questions-over-rules\/","title":{"rendered":"Chris Mason: Elon Musk donation talks with Reform UK raise questions over rules"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"160\" height=\"90\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/www.bbc.com\/bbcx\/grey-placeholder.png?resize=160,90&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Chris Mason: Elon Musk donation talks with Reform UK raise questions over rules\" title=\"Chris Mason: Elon Musk donation talks with Reform UK raise questions over rules\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 ejjhCR\">\n<div data-testid=\"hero-image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/1542\/live\/0f126d20-bcd0-11ef-9b50-e1ebaae4ab2f.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/1542\/live\/0f126d20-bcd0-11ef-9b50-e1ebaae4ab2f.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/1542\/live\/0f126d20-bcd0-11ef-9b50-e1ebaae4ab2f.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/1542\/live\/0f126d20-bcd0-11ef-9b50-e1ebaae4ab2f.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/1542\/live\/0f126d20-bcd0-11ef-9b50-e1ebaae4ab2f.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/1542\/live\/0f126d20-bcd0-11ef-9b50-e1ebaae4ab2f.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/1542\/live\/0f126d20-bcd0-11ef-9b50-e1ebaae4ab2f.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/1542\/live\/0f126d20-bcd0-11ef-9b50-e1ebaae4ab2f.jpg.webp\" alt=\"Reform UK\/PA Nick Candy, Elon musk and Nigel Farage pose for a photo\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 efFcac\"\/><span class=\"sc-a34861b-2 fxQYxK\">Reform UK\/PA<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 cvNhQw\">Reform UK treasurer Nick Candy (left) and the party&#8217;s leader Nigel Farage (right) have been holding talks with Elon Musk (centre) in Florida<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The world&#8217;s disruptor-in-chief, Elon Musk, meets the UK&#8217;s political disruptor-in- chief, Nigel Farage.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">They are news-making, cor blimey, take a look at this photo.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But they are more than that, for they are the most clear-cut proof yet of the richest man in the world&#8217;s desire to get involved in \u2013 meddle in, as some see it \u2013 British politics.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">There is another way of describing the pictures of three men at Donald Trump&#8217;s pad, Mar-a-Lago, in Florida: two billionaires and Nigel Farage.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Farage had one mega rich man alongside him when meeting someone even richer.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\"><a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/czr3n6g4lyjo\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">Reform UK&#8217;s new Treasurer is Nick Candy,<!-- --><\/a> a billionaire property developer who used to donate to the Conservatives and who, incidentally, is married to the former pop star Holly Valance.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But Candy is a pauper compared with Musk, the serial entrepreneurial disruptor in business with his rockets, electric cars and social media platform, now doing the same in politics.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Nigel Farage is the master of political storytelling freighted with an intrigue that keeps people interested.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">This time it was all about eye-catching imagery and a teasing but not exactly straight answer about a donation.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Money was discussed, we are not told how much, we don&#8217;t know for certain if it&#8217;ll ever happen and if it does what it will amount to, but the next chapter was trailed \u2013 Donald Trump&#8217;s inauguration next month, which Farage will be attending.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Reform UK leader, now back from Florida, told me the suggestion Musk might give his party $100m (\u00a378m) was wildly over the top.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But a number much smaller than that could still be very big, and game-changing for Reform&#8217;s prospects.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The question is whether it would be legal \u2013 and whether it would be seen as legitimate.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The All Party Parliamentary Group on Fair Elections says it wouldn&#8217;t and wants the law changed.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Downing Street says the government has committed to strengthening the rules, which currently allow donations from UK registered companies.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 cvNhQw\">Nigel Farage says he \u201cdid discuss money\u201d during Mar-a-Lago meeting with Elon Musk<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Downing Street says the government has committed to strengthening the rules, which currently allow donations from UK registered companies.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The danger for the government is any change in the law might look like self-interest and changing the rules of the game half way through.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">But never before have we seen a man as rich, with a megaphone as large, so enthused about strutting the political stage \u2013 abroad as well as at home.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">That poses profound questions about how much influence and from where is judged to be too much influence from too far away.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 jFCfG\">\n<div data-testid=\"image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/40ef\/live\/12f2e530-bcdc-11ef-a71b-0bf9882eff08.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/40ef\/live\/12f2e530-bcdc-11ef-a71b-0bf9882eff08.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/40ef\/live\/12f2e530-bcdc-11ef-a71b-0bf9882eff08.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/40ef\/live\/12f2e530-bcdc-11ef-a71b-0bf9882eff08.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/40ef\/live\/12f2e530-bcdc-11ef-a71b-0bf9882eff08.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/40ef\/live\/12f2e530-bcdc-11ef-a71b-0bf9882eff08.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/40ef\/live\/12f2e530-bcdc-11ef-a71b-0bf9882eff08.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/40ef\/live\/12f2e530-bcdc-11ef-a71b-0bf9882eff08.jpg.webp\" alt=\"Nigel Farage\/X JD Vance and Nigel Farage smile for the camera\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 efFcac\"\/><span class=\"sc-a34861b-2 fxQYxK\">Nigel Farage\/X<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 cvNhQw\">Nigel Farage also met US Vice-President elect JD Vance during his recent trip to America<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">And here is a thought experiment for you: is your own instinct in how you answer those questions driven primarily by what you think of Nigel Farage and Elon Musk, or about the principle of foreign donations?<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The former Conservative minister Miriam Cates wrote on X: &#8220;Now imagine\u2026a picture of Bill Gates with Keir Starmer, pledging support for the Labour Party. You are either for or against foreign interference in British politics. It can&#8217;t just depend on whether you agree with or like the individual billionaire concerned.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Nigel Farage will be back across the Atlantic in a few weeks to toast Donald Trump&#8217;s return to the White House.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">On this latest visit he also managed a photo with the US Vice President Elect, JD Vance.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Reform UK leader has friends in high places and friends with deep pockets.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Little wonder he is causing Labour, the Conservatives and others to fret about the political threat they fear he increasingly poses to them.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/c4g3zw1jx7vo\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reform UK\/PA Reform UK treasurer Nick Candy (left) and the party&#8217;s leader Nigel Farage (right) have been holding talks with Elon Musk (centre) in Florida The world&#8217;s disruptor-in-chief, Elon Musk, meets the UK&#8217;s political disruptor-in- chief, Nigel Farage. They are news-making, cor blimey, take a look at this photo. 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