{"id":225995,"date":"2025-01-28T10:13:03","date_gmt":"2025-01-28T10:13:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2025\/01\/28\/how-chinese-deepseek-can-be-as-good-as-us-ai-rivals-at-fraction-of-cost\/"},"modified":"2025-01-28T10:13:04","modified_gmt":"2025-01-28T10:13:04","slug":"how-chinese-deepseek-can-be-as-good-as-us-ai-rivals-at-fraction-of-cost","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2025\/01\/28\/how-chinese-deepseek-can-be-as-good-as-us-ai-rivals-at-fraction-of-cost\/","title":{"rendered":"How Chinese DeepSeek can be as good as US AI rivals at fraction of cost"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Based on the limited numbers of comparisons made so far, DeepSeek’s AI models appear to be faster, smaller, and a whole lot cheaper than the best offerings from the supposed titans of AI like OpenAI, Anthropic and Google.<\/p>\n

And here’s the kicker, the Chinese offering<\/strong><\/a> appears to be just as good. So how have they done it?<\/p>\n

Firstly, it looks like DeepSeek’s engineers have thought about what an AI<\/strong><\/a> needs to do rather than what it might be able to do.<\/p>\n

It doesn’t need to work out every possible answer to a question, just the best one – to two decimal places for example instead of 20.<\/p>\n

Their models are still massive computer programmes, DeepSeek-V3 has 671 billion variables.<\/p>\n

But ChatGPT<\/a><\/strong>-4 is a colossal 1.76 trillion.<\/p>\n

Doing more with less seems to be down to the architecture of the model, which uses a technique called “mixture of experts”.<\/p>\n

Where OpenAI<\/a><\/strong>‘s latest model GPT-4.0 attempts to be Einstein, Shakespeare and Picasso rolled into one, DeepSeek’s is more like a university broken up into expert departments.<\/p>\n

This allows the AI to decide what kind of query it’s being asked, and then send it to a particular part of its digital brain to be dealt with.<\/p>\n

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This allows the other parts to remain switched off, saving time, energy and most importantly the need for computing power.<\/p>\n

And it’s the equivalent performance with significantly less computing power, that has shocked the big AI developers and financial markets.<\/p>\n

The state-of-the-art AI models had been developed using more and more powerful graphics processing units (GPUs) made by the likes of Nvidia<\/a><\/strong> in the US.<\/p>\n

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The only way to improve them, so the market logic went, was more and more “compute”.<\/p>\n

Partly to stay ahead of China in the AI arms-race, the US restricted the sale of the most powerful GPUs to China.<\/p>\n

What DeepSeek’s engineers have demonstrated is what engineers do when you present them with a problem. They come up with a workaround.<\/p>\n

Learning from what OpenAI and others have done, they redesigned a model from the ground up so that it could work on GPUs designed for computer games not superintelligence.<\/p>\n

What’s more, their model is open source meaning it will be easier for developers to incorporate into their products.<\/p>\n

Being far more efficient, and open source makes DeepSeek’s approach look like a far more attractive offering for everyday AI applications.<\/p>\n

The result, of course, a nearly $600bn overnight haircut<\/strong><\/a> for Nvidia.<\/p>\n

But it will survive its sudden reverse in fortunes. The LLM-type (large language model) models pioneered by OpenAI and now improved by DeepSeek aren’t the be-all and end-all in AI development.<\/p>\n

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“General intelligence” from an AI is still a way off – and lots of high end computing will likely be needed to get us there.<\/p>\n

The fate of firms like OpenAI is less certain. Their supposedly game-changing GPT-5 model, requiring mind-blowing amounts of computing power to function, is still to emerge.<\/p>\n

Now the game appears to have changed around them and many are clearly wondering what return they’re going to get on their AI investment.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n


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