{"id":236584,"date":"2025-02-11T15:49:23","date_gmt":"2025-02-11T15:49:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2025\/02\/11\/musk-v-altman-the-battle-to-become-king-of-ai\/"},"modified":"2025-02-11T15:49:23","modified_gmt":"2025-02-11T15:49:23","slug":"musk-v-altman-the-battle-to-become-king-of-ai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2025\/02\/11\/musk-v-altman-the-battle-to-become-king-of-ai\/","title":{"rendered":"Musk v Altman: The battle to become king of AI"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/e3.365dm.com\/25\/02\/768x432\/skynews-open-ai-sam-altman_6825265.jpg?20250211092209&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Musk v Altman: The battle to become king of AI\" title=\"Musk v Altman: The battle to become king of AI\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component-name=\"ui-article-body\" data-highlight-intro=\"true\">\n<p>Elon Musk&#8217;s bid to buy OpenAI for $97.4bn (\u00a378.7bn) came unsolicited on Monday night and was quickly rejected by his former friend and OpenAI chief executive Sam Altman.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The company is not for sale, neither is the mission,&#8221; <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/topic\/sam-altman-10774\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mr Altman<\/a><\/strong> said to Sky News this morning.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ll happily buy Twitter though.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more: <a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/openai-co-founder-sam-altman-tells-sky-news-his-platform-can-be-safer-13307024\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">OpenAI co-founder tells Sky News it&#8217;s &#8216;not for sale&#8217;<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the latest in a long-running spat between the former tech buddies.<\/p>\n<p>Back in 2015, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/topic\/elon-musk-6730\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mr Musk<\/a> <\/strong>and Mr Altman founded <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/topic\/openai-10948\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">OpenAI<\/a><\/strong> along with nine other Silicon Valley entrepreneurs to ensure &#8220;artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>But the idealistic partnership wasn&#8217;t to last. Three years later, Mr Musk left after a power struggle.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Elon wanted us to merge with Tesla or he wanted full control,&#8221; the company wrote in a blog post about the split in 2024.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-site-video callfn\" data-account-id=\"6058004172001\" data-amp-iframe-embed=\"\" data-asset-id=\"0702239e-2ac7-4a5b-8efb-4fe6e2328c9b\" data-asset-path=\"\" data-asset-version=\"\" data-autoplay=\"false\" data-auth-config=\"\" data-caption=\"OpenAI Ceo Sam Altman says the company is 'not for sale' \" data-clip-type=\"\" data-component-name=\"sdc-site-video\" data-component-name-alias=\"ui-sitewide-video\" data-competition=\"\" data-copy-url-text=\"URL copied to clipboard\" data-fn=\"sdc-site-video\" data-id=\"id_0702239e-2ac7-4a5b-8efb-4fe6e2328c9b\" data-is-live-stream=\"false\" data-lite=\"true\" data-options=\"\" data-originator-id=\"51\" data-originator-handle=\"brightcove-news-gb\" data-package-name=\"\" data-provider=\"brightcove\" data-player-id=\"yjBoKQ5XA\" data-playsinline=\"\" data-sensitive=\"false\" data-sdc-id=\"6825274\" data-sdc-video-id=\"0702239e-2ac7-4a5b-8efb-4fe6e2328c9b\" data-sport-category=\"\" data-state=\"loading\" data-token-state=\"none\" data-video-ad-unit=\"\" data-video-blacklisted-originator-ids=\"\" data-video-id=\"ref:0702239e-2ac7-4a5b-8efb-4fe6e2328c9b\" data-video-type=\"\" data-auto-pause-on-not-visible=\"true\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-closed-captions-position=\"middle-third\" data-show-closed-captions=\"true\" data-show-pip=\"true\" data-show-live-stream-scrubber=\"true\" data-autoload=\"false\">\n<div class=\"sdc-site-video__inner\">\n<div class=\"sdc-site-video__content\" data-role=\"bridge-controller\" style=\"padding-bottom: calc(100% \/ ());\">\n<p class=\"sdc-site-video__accessibility-message\" data-role=\"accessibility-message\">Please use Chrome browser for a more accessible video player<\/p>\n<p>              <span aria-hidden=\"true\" data-role=\"poster\" class=\"sdc-site-video__poster\"><\/p>\n<p>              <span class=\"sdc-site-video__loader\"\/><br \/>\n                <span class=\"sdc-site-video__time\">1:15<\/span><br \/>\n              <\/span><\/p>\n<p>              <video id=\"id_0702239e-2ac7-4a5b-8efb-4fe6e2328c9b\" data-embed=\"default\" data-application-id=\"\" class=\"video-js sdc-site-video__tag\" controls=\"\" playsinline=\"\"\/>\n            <\/div><figcaption class=\"sdc-site-video__caption ui-media-caption\">\n<p>              <span class=\"ui-media-caption__caption-text\" data-role=\"caption-text\">OpenAI Ceo Sam Altman says the company is &#8216;not for sale&#8217; <\/span><br \/>\n            <\/figcaption><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>When Mr Altman and the others refused to hand over control, Mr Musk left acrimoniously, taking a promised $1bn donation with him, according to OpenAI.<\/p>\n<p>However, he had been right about one thing. When he&#8217;d offered to let OpenAI treat Tesla as a &#8220;cash cow&#8221;, he&#8217;d said it was the only way to compete with Google&#8217;s DeepMind project, which was developing quickly.<\/p>\n<p>OpenAI wasn&#8217;t bringing in enough cash and everyone agreed the company would need more resources if it wanted to reach the AI holy grail: artificial general intelligence (AGI).<\/p>\n<p>AGI is a hypothetical AI system that can perform any intellectual task that a human can.<\/p>\n<p>So, after rejecting Mr Musk&#8217;s offer, Mr Altman set up a &#8220;capped-profit&#8221; subsidiary of the company and got investments from Microsoft and others.<\/p>\n<p>Elon Musk was not happy. He founded his own company, xAI, and then took OpenAI to court, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/elon-musk-sues-openai-and-sam-altman-saying-company-putting-profit-over-the-public-good-13084401\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">suing for a breach of contract.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>He accused the ChatGPT developer of transforming into &#8220;a closed-source de facto subsidiary of the largest technology company, Microsoft&#8221;, according to a court filing.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It is not just developing but is actually refining an AGI [artificial general intelligence] to maximise profits for Microsoft, rather than for the benefit of humanity&#8221;, the filing said.<\/p>\n<p>OpenAI denied this and also said it never promised to open-source its technology, just to spread the benefits of it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-article-image\">\n<figure class=\"sdc-article-image__figure\">\n<div class=\"sdc-article-image__wrapper\" data-aspect-ratio=\"16\/9\">\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sdc-article-image__item\" loading=\"lazy\" intrinsicsize=\"768x432\" src=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/25\/02\/768x432\/skynews-ilya-sutskever-openai_6825509.jpg?20250211132242\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/25\/02\/384x216\/skynews-ilya-sutskever-openai_6825509.jpg?20250211132242 380w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/25\/02\/768x432\/skynews-ilya-sutskever-openai_6825509.jpg?20250211132242 760w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/25\/02\/1600x900\/skynews-ilya-sutskever-openai_6825509.jpg?20250211132242 1024w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/25\/02\/2048x1152\/skynews-ilya-sutskever-openai_6825509.jpg?20250211132242 2048w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 1024px, 100vw\" alt=\"Sam Altman listens to Ilya Sutskever during a talk at Tel Aviv University in 2023. File pic: Reuters\"\/>\n    <\/div><figcaption class=\"ui-media-caption\">\n        <span class=\"u-hide-visually\">Image:<\/span><br \/>\n        <span class=\"ui-media-caption__caption-text\">Sam Altman listens to Ilya Sutskever during a talk in 2023. File pic: Reuters<br \/>\n        <\/span><br \/>\n      <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>&#8220;The Open in openAI means that everyone should benefit from the fruits of AI after it&#8217;s built, but it&#8217;s totally OK to not share the science&#8230;&#8221;, wrote former OpenAI chief scientist Ilya Sutskever in an email to Elon Musk in 2016.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Yup,&#8221; he replied, according to OpenAI.<\/p>\n<p>But the subsidiary still wasn&#8217;t bringing in enough money and rumours began swirling in 2024 that Mr Altman would turn OpenAI into a for-profit company.<\/p>\n<p>Despite Mr Musk asking a judge to block this from happening, in December, Mr Altman officially released his plans for OpenAI&#8217;s for-profit arm to take control and &#8220;raise the necessary capital&#8221; to reach general artificial intelligence.<\/p>\n<p>The non-profit side of the company would still exist to work on AI for the public good, the company reassured people.<\/p>\n<p>In order to make the switch from non-profit to for-profit, OpenAI&#8217;s board is currently going through a complex process to value parts of the company.<\/p>\n<p>Sam Altman will then have to essentially buy the company from the non-profit, which is currently thought to be worth around $40 billion.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-site-video callfn\" data-account-id=\"6058004172001\" data-amp-iframe-embed=\"\" data-asset-id=\"52e04cfc-678a-44ec-a6b6-29e094c59032\" data-asset-path=\"\" data-asset-version=\"\" data-autoplay=\"false\" data-auth-config=\"\" data-caption=\"AI summit overshadowed by 'tech bros bust up'\" data-clip-type=\"\" data-component-name=\"sdc-site-video\" data-component-name-alias=\"ui-sitewide-video\" data-competition=\"\" data-copy-url-text=\"URL copied to clipboard\" data-fn=\"sdc-site-video\" data-id=\"id_52e04cfc-678a-44ec-a6b6-29e094c59032\" data-is-live-stream=\"false\" data-lite=\"true\" data-options=\"\" data-originator-id=\"51\" data-originator-handle=\"brightcove-news-gb\" data-package-name=\"\" data-provider=\"brightcove\" data-player-id=\"yjBoKQ5XA\" data-playsinline=\"\" data-sensitive=\"false\" data-sdc-id=\"6825618\" data-sdc-video-id=\"52e04cfc-678a-44ec-a6b6-29e094c59032\" data-sport-category=\"\" data-state=\"loading\" data-token-state=\"none\" data-video-ad-unit=\"\" data-video-blacklisted-originator-ids=\"\" data-video-id=\"ref:52e04cfc-678a-44ec-a6b6-29e094c59032\" data-video-type=\"\" data-auto-pause-on-not-visible=\"true\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-closed-captions-position=\"middle-third\" data-show-closed-captions=\"true\" data-show-pip=\"true\" data-show-live-stream-scrubber=\"true\" data-autoload=\"false\">\n<div class=\"sdc-site-video__inner\">\n<div class=\"sdc-site-video__content\" data-role=\"bridge-controller\" style=\"padding-bottom: calc(100% \/ ());\">\n<p class=\"sdc-site-video__accessibility-message\" data-role=\"accessibility-message\">Please use Chrome browser for a more accessible video player<\/p>\n<p>              <span aria-hidden=\"true\" data-role=\"poster\" class=\"sdc-site-video__poster\"><br \/>\n                <img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/25\/02\/768x432\/image_6825619.jpg?20250211143925\" alt=\"preview image\" srcset=\"\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"sdc-site-video__poster-img\"\/><br \/>\n              <span class=\"sdc-site-video__loader\"\/><br \/>\n                <span class=\"sdc-site-video__time\">1:18<\/span><br \/>\n              <\/span><\/p>\n<p>              <video id=\"id_52e04cfc-678a-44ec-a6b6-29e094c59032\" data-embed=\"default\" data-application-id=\"\" class=\"video-js sdc-site-video__tag\" controls=\"\" playsinline=\"\"\/>\n            <\/div><figcaption class=\"sdc-site-video__caption ui-media-caption\">\n<p>              <span class=\"ui-media-caption__caption-text\" data-role=\"caption-text\">AI summit overshadowed by &#8216;tech bros bust up&#8217;<\/span><br \/>\n            <\/figcaption><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Musk throws a &#8216;wrench&#8217; into Altman&#8217;s profit-making plans<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>But Elon Musk has now &#8220;thrown a wrench&#8221; into those proceedings with his $97.4bn (\u00a378.7bn) offer, according to Yale professor Jonathan Macey, who specialises in corporate governance.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The non-profit is supposed to take money to do whatever good deeds, and if OpenAI prefers to sell it to somebody else for less money, it&#8217;s a concern for protecting the interests of the beneficiaries of the not-for-profit.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>OpenAI &#8220;may not be able to ignore&#8221; the bid, according to analyst Gil Luria, because it has credible investors backing it, including Ari Emanuel, chief executive of entertainment company Endeavour, and multiple other investment groups.<\/p>\n<p>However, others think this could just be another dig from Elon Musk to his former friend.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s partially a troll, and partially setting a price that may cause Sam to pay more than he might want to,&#8221; wrote Dan Primack, Axios&#8217;s business editor, on X.<\/p>\n<p>However, when Sam Altman spoke to Sky News from an AI summit in Paris on Tuesday morning, he sounded confident.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The company is not for sale, neither is the mission.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He was asked whether he can still afford to keep control of OpenAI after Mr Musk&#8217;s bid.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The board will decide what to do there&#8230; the mission is really important and we&#8217;re totally focused on making sure we preserve that,&#8221; he told Sky&#8217;s science and technology editor Tom Clarke.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more from Sky News:<\/strong><br \/><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/has-elon-musk-just-put-openai-in-a-tricky-situation-13307200\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Has Elon Musk just put OpenAI in a tricky situation?<\/a><\/strong><br \/><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/in-chinas-silicon-valley-where-founder-of-deepseek-liang-wenfeng-keeps-a-low-profile-13307158\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">In China&#8217;s Silicon Valley, where DeepSeek founder keeps a low profile<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>     <a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/download-app\" target=\"blank\" data-tracking-label=\"ui-app-promo-download-link\" class=\"ui-app-promo sdc-article-widget\" data-type=\"\" data-component-name=\"ui-app-promo\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/p>\n<p>    <\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8216;Consolidating power&#8217;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If Mr Musk&#8217;s bid were to be successful, some are worried about the degree of influence it could give him.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Musk obviously already controls [X],&#8221; 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