{"id":296351,"date":"2025-05-03T01:00:14","date_gmt":"2025-05-03T01:00:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2025\/05\/03\/chris-mason-fireworks-for-reform-as-labour-conservatives-write-election-post-mortems\/"},"modified":"2025-05-03T01:00:15","modified_gmt":"2025-05-03T01:00:15","slug":"chris-mason-fireworks-for-reform-as-labour-conservatives-write-election-post-mortems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2025\/05\/03\/chris-mason-fireworks-for-reform-as-labour-conservatives-write-election-post-mortems\/","title":{"rendered":"Chris Mason: Fireworks for Reform as Labour, Conservatives write election post-mortems"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/branded_news\/9f17\/live\/aeb55ec0-27ae-11f0-8c66-ebf25fc2cfef.jpg?ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Chris Mason: Fireworks for Reform as Labour, Conservatives write election post-mortems\" title=\"Chris Mason: Fireworks for Reform as Labour, Conservatives write election post-mortems\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\">\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">For all of the noise and the numbers following this week&#8217;s elections in England, two sentences tell you much of what you need to know.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Nigel Farage arranged <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/cd6j8e38p79o\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\" rel=\"noopener\">a fireworks display and a party<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">The prime minister and the Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch have both written post-mortem articles in Saturday&#8217;s newspapers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Politicians often accuse journalists of a splash of hyperbole, but it would be a struggle to top the Tory leader&#8217;s description of her party&#8217;s results as a &#8220;bloodbath.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">It was though, she insists <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/politics\/2025\/05\/02\/kemi-badenoch-i-am-sorry-for-election-bloodbath\/\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\" rel=\"noopener\">in the Daily Telegraph<\/a>, a bloodbath she was expecting, having been warned of just this when she was running to be Conservative leader last year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Sir Keir Starmer&#8217;s language <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/uk\/politics\/article\/keir-starmer-voter-anger-labour-party-r378knsrh\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\" rel=\"noopener\">in the Times<\/a> isn&#8217;t quite as graphic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">He repeats that &#8220;I get it&#8221; and said he wouldn&#8217;t resort to the &#8220;same old excuses&#8221; used by prime ministers facing tough local elections.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">&#8220;I feel the same sharp edge of fury at the way our country has been let down as people who voted on Thursday do,&#8221; he writes, making reference to &#8220;uncontrolled immigration, sewage in rivers&#8221; and &#8220;failing local services&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Two immediate practical questions arise out of these results.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">The first is how Labour and the Conservatives respond to what has happened \u2013 not least the rapid rise of Reform UK, but also the Liberal Democrats and to a lesser extent the Green Party.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">The second is how Reform adjusts to the realities of power \u2013 bluntly, whether they prove to be any good at it or not.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\">\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">There is then a wider political question.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">The demolition of the duopoly in Westminster politics has been talked of before.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Think <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/world-47280218\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\" rel=\"noopener\">the birth of the Social Democratic Party<\/a>, or SDP, in 1981.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">There was the coalition government of the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats between 2010 and 2015.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">In the 2019 European Parliament elections, the Conservatives and Labour only managed to cobble together <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-politics-48403131\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\" rel=\"noopener\">23% of the vote between them<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">And yet before and after each of these moments, one of the Westminster big two went on to win the next general election, often handsomely.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Indeed, months after those European elections, the Conservatives won a big majority at Westminster.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Two years earlier, the big two in the Commons swept up 82.4% of the vote combined.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">So it is wise to bring perspective to this discussion, rather than breathlessness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">But it is wise, too, to acknowledge the sheer scale of this breakthrough by Reform UK.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">They went into these elections with the challenge of proving that they could match in votes what the opinion polls had suggested they could.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">They comfortably exceeded that high expectation which is why this is a profound moment in our contemporary politics.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Senior Reform figures believe the primary driving motivation behind their surge was that most powerful of human emotions: betrayal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Betrayal, they argue, from both of Westminster&#8217;s big beasts.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">So what happens next?<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Well, the pyrotechnics of modern politics continue, and not just in the field used by Reform UK for their celebratory party.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">And a final thought: if English politics feels splintered and noisy, remember Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Next year, there are elections to the Scottish and Welsh parliaments.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Reform are pretty excited about those elections as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">The Scottish National Party, Plaid Cymru and others will, of course, be in the mix then too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">The widening cacophony of political voices demanding our attention and endorsement could get louder yet.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/ce8478zp085o\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For all of the noise and the numbers following this week&#8217;s elections in England, two sentences tell you much of what you need to know. Nigel Farage arranged a fireworks display and a party. The prime minister and the Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch have both written post-mortem articles in Saturday&#8217;s newspapers. 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