{"id":60678,"date":"2024-05-28T15:19:28","date_gmt":"2024-05-28T15:19:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/05\/28\/whatsapp-boss-in-online-spat-with-elon-musk-over-message-security\/"},"modified":"2024-05-28T15:19:28","modified_gmt":"2024-05-28T15:19:28","slug":"whatsapp-boss-in-online-spat-with-elon-musk-over-message-security","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/05\/28\/whatsapp-boss-in-online-spat-with-elon-musk-over-message-security\/","title":{"rendered":"WhatsApp boss in online spat with Elon Musk over message security"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/branded_news\/9370\/live\/1e7d6b50-1ce1-11ef-a36a-771f5fdb8b8a.jpg?resize=1024,576&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"WhatsApp boss in online spat with Elon Musk over message security\" title=\"WhatsApp boss in online spat with Elon Musk over message security\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">WhatsApp boss Will Cathcart has hit back at claims from Elon Musk that the messaging app &#8220;exports your user data every night.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Posting on X, Mr Cathcart said the allegation was simply &#8220;not correct&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He pointed to the fact WhatsApp messages are end-to-end encrypted, meaning they cannot be read by the company at all.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Yann LeCun &#8211; artificial intelligence chief at parent company, Meta &#8211; has also weighed in, using more industrial language in his X post attacking Mr Musk&#8217;s claims.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">On another Meta platform, Threads, Mr LeCun also levelled further criticisms at Mr Musk, accusing him of making contradictory and unrealistic claims about artificial intelligence and &#8220;spewing conspiracy theories&#8221; on his own social media platform.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Mr Musk has a well-established reputation for getting himself into online rows, from <!-- --><a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/world-us-canada-50695593#:~:text=Elon%20Musk%20did%20not%20defame,the%20tweet%20damaged%20his%20reputation.\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">submariners <!-- --><\/a>to <!-- --><a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/technology-64884287\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">sacked former employees<!-- --><\/a>.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">In this case, Mr Cathcart is right to say only the sender and recipient of a WhatsApp message can read its contents.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">In fact, the firm&#8217;s commitment to encrypting messages is so significant that it previously said <!-- --><a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/technology-64863448\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">it would rather be blocked in the UK<!-- --><\/a> than weaken the encryption it uses.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Mr Musk&#8217;s vague language &#8211; simply saying that &#8220;user data&#8221; was being uploaded &#8211; could however be interpreted to refer to metadata, the extra bits of information sent alongside the actual message.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;WhatsApp messages are end-to-end encrypted, but user data is not only about messages,&#8221; <!-- --><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/mysk_co\/status\/1795210609153163374\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">said security researcher Tommy Mysk in a post on X<!-- --><\/a>. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;That also includes the metadata such as user location, which contacts the user is communicating with, the patterns of when the user is online, etc.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">It is known that WhatsApp does share some metadata with other platforms Meta owns &#8211; but this does not include messages.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;One area of particular concern has been WhatsApp sharing data with other Meta companies,&#8221; said Dr Tristan Henderson, lecturer in computer science at the University of St Andrews.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;This does include sufficient metadata for these Meta companies to make suggestions and show personalised adverts, which in itself shows what metadata can reveal.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The WhatsApp Privacy Policy specifically states that the firm will use some user data for &#8220;showing relevant offers and ads across the Meta Company Products&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The BBC has approached Meta for comment.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/c0ddwymz8ero\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>WhatsApp boss Will Cathcart has hit back at claims from Elon Musk that the messaging app &#8220;exports your user data every night.&#8221; Posting on X, Mr Cathcart said the allegation was simply &#8220;not correct&#8221;. 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