{"id":71647,"date":"2024-06-12T23:06:11","date_gmt":"2024-06-12T23:06:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/06\/12\/defeatist-sunak-and-robot-starmer-grimsby-audience-members-give-their-verdicts-on-leaders-at-sky-news-event\/"},"modified":"2024-06-12T23:06:11","modified_gmt":"2024-06-12T23:06:11","slug":"defeatist-sunak-and-robot-starmer-grimsby-audience-members-give-their-verdicts-on-leaders-at-sky-news-event","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/06\/12\/defeatist-sunak-and-robot-starmer-grimsby-audience-members-give-their-verdicts-on-leaders-at-sky-news-event\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;Defeatist&#8217; Sunak and &#8216;robot&#8217; Starmer: Grimsby audience members give their verdicts on leaders at Sky News event"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"432\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/06\/768x432\/skynews-sunak-grimsby_6580169.jpg?20240612231851&amp;fit=768,432&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"&#8216;Defeatist&#8217; Sunak and &#8216;robot&#8217; Starmer: Grimsby audience members give their verdicts on leaders at Sky News event\" title=\"&#8216;Defeatist&#8217; Sunak and &#8216;robot&#8217; Starmer: Grimsby audience members give their verdicts on leaders at Sky News event\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component-name=\"sdc-article-body\" data-highlight-intro=\"true\">\n<p>The prime minister seemed &#8220;defeated&#8221; to audience members in Grimsby after Sky&#8217;s Battle For Number Ten.<\/p>\n<p>Some also questioned whether Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer had fully answered the questions they asked.<\/p>\n<p>The <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/sir-keir-starmer-says-labour-wont-reach-for-tax-lever-to-fix-public-services-13152068\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">90-minute TV grilling<\/a><\/strong> left the audience asking how the prime minister could fight back and win the election.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/election-latest-green-party-to-unveil-manifesto-with-dramatic-tax-changes-as-rishi-sunak-and-sir-keir-starmer-face-sky-leaders-event-12593360\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Latest updates on the general election<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Amy Green had travelled from Leeds to ask a question and said he seemed beaten.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Sunak needs to drop the act, speak to us like an electorate as humans,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think he was quite defeatist &#8211; if I was fighting for my job, I would be out there socking it to people\u2026 he has given up and lost the will.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-article-image\">\n<figure class=\"sdc-article-image__figure\">\n<div class=\"sdc-article-image__wrapper\" data-aspect-ratio=\"16\/9\"><\/div><figcaption class=\"ui-media-caption\">\n        <span class=\"u-hide-visually\">Image:<\/span><br \/>\n        <span class=\"ui-media-caption__caption-text\">Rishi Sunak addresses the audience in Grimsby. Pic: PA<br \/>\n        <\/span><br \/>\n      <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>She used to play a prominent role in her local Conservative Party but quit a few years ago.<\/p>\n<p>She had started the night unsure of who to vote for and afterwards was still no closer to a decision.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I am still undecided to be honest,&#8221; she added.<\/p>\n<p>Grimsby resident Sharon Westerman asked the first question of the night to Sir Keir about inequality in her hometown.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-site-video callfn\" data-account-id=\"6058004172001\" data-amp-iframe-embed=\"\" data-asset-id=\"71a94225-f3b0-4451-8de5-eed228c17b39\" data-asset-path=\"\" data-asset-version=\"\" data-autoplay=\"false\" data-auth-config=\"\" data-caption=\"Starmer: 'I was a toolmaker's son'\" data-clip-type=\"\" data-component-name=\"sdc-site-video\" data-competition=\"\" data-copy-url-text=\"URL copied to clipboard\" data-fn=\"sdc-site-video\" data-id=\"id_71a94225-f3b0-4451-8de5-eed228c17b39\" data-is-live-stream=\"false\" data-lite=\"true\" data-options=\"\" data-originator-id=\"51\" data-originator-handle=\"brightcove-news-gb\" data-package-name=\"\" data-provider=\"brightcove\" data-player-id=\"RC9PQUaJ6\" data-playsinline=\"\" data-sensitive=\"false\" data-sdc-id=\"6580158\" data-sdc-video-id=\"71a94225-f3b0-4451-8de5-eed228c17b39\" data-sport-category=\"\" data-state=\"loading\" data-token-state=\"none\" data-video-ad-unit=\"\" data-video-blacklisted-originator-ids=\"\" data-video-id=\"ref:71a94225-f3b0-4451-8de5-eed228c17b39\" data-video-type=\"\" data-auto-pause-on-not-visible=\"true\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-closed-captions-position=\"middle-third\" data-show-closed-captions=\"true\" data-show-pip=\"true\" data-show-live-stream-scrubber=\"true\">\n<div class=\"sdc-site-video__inner\">\n<div class=\"sdc-site-video__content\" data-role=\"bridge-controller\" style=\"padding-bottom: calc(100% \/ ());\">\n<p class=\"sdc-site-video__accessibility-message\" data-role=\"accessibility-message\">Please use Chrome browser for a more accessible video player<\/p>\n<p>              <span aria-hidden=\"true\" data-role=\"poster\" class=\"sdc-site-video__poster\"><br \/>\n                <img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/06\/768x432\/skynews-keir-starmer-election-labour_6580166.jpg?20240612231032\" alt=\"Sir Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak both attended the election event in Grimsby.\" srcset=\"\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"sdc-site-video__poster-img\"\/><br \/>\n              <span class=\"sdc-site-video__loader\"\/><br \/>\n                <span class=\"sdc-site-video__time\">0:49<\/span><br \/>\n              <\/span><\/p>\n<p>              <video id=\"id_71a94225-f3b0-4451-8de5-eed228c17b39\" data-embed=\"default\" data-application-id=\"\" class=\"video-js sdc-site-video__tag\" controls=\"\" playsinline=\"\"\/><\/div><figcaption class=\"sdc-site-video__caption ui-media-caption\">\n<p>              <span class=\"ui-media-caption__caption-text\" data-role=\"caption-text\">Starmer: &#8216;I was a toolmaker&#8217;s son&#8217;<\/span><br \/>\n            <\/figcaption><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>She told Sky News she wasn&#8217;t 100% convinced by him, but thought he would become the next prime minister.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think Labour will get it, but there will be fierce competition from other candidates &#8211; it&#8217;s not just about Labour and Conservatives,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There were some questions answered, but others such as the NHS and housing and child poverty we still need to know how it is going to be achieved.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Not enough detail from both men.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Christina Ashibogu had travelled to Grimsby from London. The lawyer had asked about rebuilding trust between the police and communities.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-site-video callfn\" data-account-id=\"6058004172001\" data-amp-iframe-embed=\"\" data-asset-id=\"79a3e633-6344-43e7-b481-853081253ffb\" data-asset-path=\"\" data-asset-version=\"\" data-autoplay=\"false\" data-auth-config=\"\" data-caption=\"In full: The Battle for Number 10\" data-clip-type=\"\" data-component-name=\"sdc-site-video\" data-competition=\"\" data-copy-url-text=\"URL copied to clipboard\" data-fn=\"sdc-site-video\" data-id=\"id_79a3e633-6344-43e7-b481-853081253ffb\" data-is-live-stream=\"false\" data-lite=\"true\" data-options=\"\" data-originator-id=\"51\" data-originator-handle=\"brightcove-news-gb\" data-package-name=\"\" data-provider=\"brightcove\" data-player-id=\"RC9PQUaJ6\" data-playsinline=\"\" data-sensitive=\"false\" data-sdc-id=\"6580117\" data-sdc-video-id=\"79a3e633-6344-43e7-b481-853081253ffb\" data-sport-category=\"\" data-state=\"loading\" data-token-state=\"none\" data-video-ad-unit=\"\" data-video-blacklisted-originator-ids=\"\" data-video-id=\"ref:79a3e633-6344-43e7-b481-853081253ffb\" data-video-type=\"\" data-auto-pause-on-not-visible=\"true\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-closed-captions-position=\"middle-third\" data-show-closed-captions=\"true\" data-show-pip=\"true\" data-show-live-stream-scrubber=\"true\">\n<div class=\"sdc-site-video__inner\">\n<div class=\"sdc-site-video__content\" data-role=\"bridge-controller\" style=\"padding-bottom: calc(100% \/ ());\">\n<p class=\"sdc-site-video__accessibility-message\" data-role=\"accessibility-message\">Please use Chrome browser for a more accessible video player<\/p>\n<p>              <span aria-hidden=\"true\" data-role=\"poster\" class=\"sdc-site-video__poster\"><br \/>\n                <img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/06\/768x432\/skynews-battleforno10-politics_6579984.jpg?20240612192937\" alt=\"Join Sky News live from Grimsby, as Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer face questions from Sky&amp;#39;s political editor Beth Rigby and audience members.&#13;&#10;\" srcset=\"\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"sdc-site-video__poster-img\"\/><br \/>\n              <span class=\"sdc-site-video__loader\"\/><br \/>\n                <span class=\"sdc-site-video__time\">1:32:15<\/span><br \/>\n              <\/span><\/p>\n<p>              <video id=\"id_79a3e633-6344-43e7-b481-853081253ffb\" data-embed=\"default\" data-application-id=\"\" class=\"video-js sdc-site-video__tag\" controls=\"\" playsinline=\"\"\/><\/div><figcaption class=\"sdc-site-video__caption ui-media-caption\">\n<p>              <span class=\"ui-media-caption__caption-text\" data-role=\"caption-text\">In full: The Battle for Number 10<\/span><br \/>\n            <\/figcaption><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>     <a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/download-app\" target=\"blank\" data-tracking-label=\"ui-app-promo-download-link\" class=\"ui-app-promo sdc-article-widget\" data-type=\"\" data-component-name=\"ui-app-promo\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/p>\n<p>    <\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I feel a bit bad for Rishi, he does look defeated\u2026 with Starmer, I wasn&#8217;t entirely impressed,&#8221; she told Sky News immediately after the event.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Someone asked Starmer why he seems like a robot and he was startled by it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She thought it was the audience that actually came out on top: &#8220;We did well, when we weren&#8217;t satisfied with the answer people went back to try and get clarity.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Retired teacher Ian Miles from Grimsby said the longer format really helped understand the two men better.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more:<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/boos-groans-and-revelations-what-we-learnt-from-sunak-and-starmer-at-sky-news-leaders-event-13152089\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">What we learnt from Sunak and Starmer<\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/keir-starmer-performed-best-overall-in-sky-news-leaders-event-poll-suggests-13152218\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Starmer performed best in Sky News event, poll suggests<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-widget sdc-article-strapline sdc-article-strapline--default-layout\" data-component-name=\"sdc-article-strapline\">\n<div class=\"sdc-article-strapline__link\">\n<div class=\"sdc-article-strapline__image-wrap\">\n                <picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/03\/320x180\/skynews-gfxwhatsapppromo-gfxwhatsapp_6490206.png 320w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/03\/640x380\/skynews-gfxwhatsapppromo-gfxwhatsapp_6490206.png 640w\" media=\"(max-width: 480px)\"><source srcset=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/03\/256x256\/skynews-gfxwhatsapppromo-gfxwhatsapp_6490206.png 256w, https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/03\/512x512\/skynews-gfxwhatsapppromo-gfxwhatsapp_6490206.png 512w\" media=\"(min-width: 481px)\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/e3.365dm.com\/24\/03\/512x512\/skynews-gfxwhatsapppromo-gfxwhatsapp_6490206.png\" alt=\"Follow Sky News on WhatsApp\" class=\"sdc-article-strapline__image\"\/><br \/>\n                <\/source><\/source><\/picture>\n            <\/div>\n<div class=\"sdc-article-strapline__body\">\n                <span class=\"sdc-article-strapline__title\">Follow Sky News on WhatsApp<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-strapline__text\">Keep up with all the latest news from the UK and around the world by following Sky News<\/p>\n<p>                <a href=\"https:\/\/whatsapp.com\/channel\/0029Va868Fv8vd1UsF99tP1u\" class=\"sdc-article-strapline__button\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tap here<\/a>\n        <\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>He too saw a prime minister who didn&#8217;t seem confident enough.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;After the D-Day disaster [when the prime minister departed early from commemorations] it&#8217;s like he doesn&#8217;t believe in himself anymore,&#8221; 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