{"id":88975,"date":"2024-07-06T10:01:04","date_gmt":"2024-07-06T10:01:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/06\/what-do-bagged-chickens-have-to-do-with-sliced-cheese\/"},"modified":"2024-07-06T10:01:04","modified_gmt":"2024-07-06T10:01:04","slug":"what-do-bagged-chickens-have-to-do-with-sliced-cheese","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/06\/what-do-bagged-chickens-have-to-do-with-sliced-cheese\/","title":{"rendered":"What Do Bagged Chickens Have to Do With Sliced Cheese?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1050\" height=\"550\" src=\"https:\/\/i3.wp.com\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2024\/07\/06\/climate\/06CLI-CHICKEN-PLASTIC\/06CLI-CHICKEN-PLASTIC-facebookJumbo.jpg?fit=1050,550&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"What Do Bagged Chickens Have to Do With Sliced Cheese?\" title=\"What Do Bagged Chickens Have to Do With Sliced Cheese?\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">When Costco tried to cut down on its plastics use earlier this year, putting its popular rotisserie chicken in a thin bag instead of a bulkier clam shell, some chicken lovers were displeased.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The bags were leaky, they said, and risked making a greasy mess. Their edges were prone to splitting open. \u201cChicken juice spilled all over the trunk of our car!\u201d one person <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/Costco\/comments\/1d7npbf\/chicken_juice_spilled_all_over_the_trunk_of_our\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">complained on Reddit<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Welcome to the packaging wars.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">There is broad agreement that the world needs to use less plastic. Plastic waste is filling the world\u2019s landfills and clogging rivers and streams. <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/04\/05\/climate\/plastic-recycling.html\" title=\"\">Recycling hasn\u2019t kept up<\/a>; less than 10 percent of plastic waste gets recycled. Plastic can also contain chemicals linked to cancer and other health problems.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Reining in plastic packaging \u2014 often used only once, then thrown away \u2014 is an obvious first step. But putting that into practice has been tricky for businesses, policymakers and shoppers. Everyone has an opinion.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cYou can see experiments all over the landscape with it,\u201d said Sandra Goldmark, a sustainability expert at Columbia University\u2019s Climate School. \u201cRight now many of the experiments are not working that well. We haven\u2019t really cracked this nut.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Costco\u2019s rotisserie-chicken-in-a-bag was a classic example of solution that\u2019s \u201cless bad,\u201d she said. \u201cBut the funny thing about less-bad solutions is that it tends to disappoint everybody,\u201d she said. \u201cIt\u2019s less plastic. It\u2019s fewer trucks on the road. But the chicken is still in a plastic bag, and there\u2019s chicken juice all over your car.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Take a <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/05\/27\/nyregion\/plastic-packaging-waste-bill.html\" title=\"\">proposed New York state law<\/a> that would require companies to reduce the plastic packaging they use by 50 percent over 12 years by requiring them to either find more sustainable options or pay a fee.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Opponents of the law pointed out that it could mean the demise of another American institution: sliced cheese. The plastic-to-cheese ratio in packs of individually wrapped cheese slices meant they\u2019d be a prime target, should the law pass, they said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cUnder this bill, New Yorkers can expect a future where they\u2019re grabbing unwrapped products \u2014 from cereals, to cheeses, to hot dogs \u2014 from grocery store bins before buying them and carrying them home,\u201d Nelson Eusebio of the National Association of Supermarkets <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2024\/04\/21\/us-news\/ny-environmentalists-next-target-individually-wrapped-cheese-slices-face-ban-under-far-reaching-bill\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">told The New York Post<\/a>. The <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/05\/27\/nyregion\/plastic-packaging-waste-bill.html\" title=\"\">bill<\/a> passed the Senate but hasn\u2019t been brought to a vote in the Assembly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Bill supporters scoffed and said there were alternatives available, like using paper.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt\u2019s clear that some multibillion-dollar corporations and their lobbyists are not ready for the world-shattering concept of separating cheese slices with wax paper,\u201d said Judith Enck, the president of the advocacy group Beyond Plastics.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Four other states \u2014 California, Colorado, Oregon and Maine \u2014 have adopted laws designed to cut down <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/ncel.net\/articles\/producer-responsibility-for-plastics-2024-state-policy-trends\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">on packaging<\/a>. States and cities are also increasingly <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ncsl.org\/research\/environment-and-natural-resources\/plastic-bag-legislation.aspx\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">banning single-use plastic bags<\/a>. <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/11\/15\/business\/pepsi-plastic-recycling-lawsuit.html\" title=\"\">New York<\/a> state and <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/mayor.baltimorecity.gov\/news\/press-releases\/2024-06-20-city-baltimore-announces-lawsuit-filed-against-plastic-manufacturing\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Baltimore have sued<\/a> plastic manufacturers for harming public health and the environment by promoting single-use plastic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Some companies are starting to make changes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Last month, Amazon said <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/06\/20\/climate\/amazon-plastic-shipping-pillows.html\" title=\"\">it would replace its plastic air pillows<\/a>, designed to cushion products during shipment, with recycled-paper packing, a move that would avoid the use of almost 15 billion pillows a year. Bath &amp; Body Works recently introduced hand-soap refills <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbwinc.com\/media\/newsroom\/n-bath-body-works-introduces-now-all-reformulated-hand-soap-collection-2023-07-06-080000\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">in paper cartons<\/a>. In Britain, Aldi, the grocery chain, is experimenting with <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.aldipresscentre.co.uk\/business-news\/aldi-peels-away-plastic-waste-on-bananas\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">paper bands to package bananas<\/a> instead of bags, and is also selling <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.aldipresscentre.co.uk\/business-news\/aldi-launches-uks-first-supermarket-own-brand-paper-wine-bottles\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">wine in paper bottles<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Companies are also experimenting with making plastic recycling easier. In the United Kingdom this year, Coca-Cola, which has been <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.breakfreefromplastic.org\/2024\/02\/07\/bffp-movement-unveils-2023-global-brand-audit-results\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">targeted by environmentalists<\/a> as a top plastic polluter, tested plastic Sprite bottles <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.coca-cola.com\/gb\/en\/media-center\/coca-cola-strips-sprite-labels-in-uk-label-less-packaging-trial\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">without the stick-on labels<\/a> that can make recycling harder. Instead, the bottles carried an embossed logo.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThere are so many trade-offs\u201d that make designing sustainable packaging complicated, said John Th\u00f8gersen, a an expert in green consumption at Aarhus University in Denmark. For example, people might assume glass bottles are more environmentally friendly than plastic, but they aren\u2019t necessarily, because it can take more energy to transport heavier glass bottles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2022\/10\/13\/climate\/global-food-waste-solutions.html\" title=\"\">Food waste<\/a>, which is damaging to the climate, is another consideration: Yogurt sold in larger tubs requires less plastic than single-serving cups, but research has shown that people who bought tubs also tended to throw out more yogurt.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">And of course, there\u2019s functionality. Some shoppers appeared to have used Costco\u2019s old rotisserie chicken packaging in place of a plate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">To eliminate plastic waste, companies need to do one of two things, experts say: develop truly biodegradable or recyclable materials, <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/05\/20\/climate\/ask-nyt-climate-biodegradable-plastic.html\" title=\"\">still a work in progress<\/a>, or move toward reusable or refillable packaging. Costco, for example, could have its shoppers bring a reusable chicken container back, over and over again. Bulk stores that let people take home nuts and grains in their own containers are another example of this approach.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.costcoconnection.com\/june_2024\/page2.html#mask\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Costco says<\/a> its chicken bags would save 17 million pounds of plastic every year. Dr. Goldmark of Columbia University said that outcome would be commendable.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cYou don\u2019t want to have perfect be the enemy of good,\u201d she said. \u201cYet we can\u2019t lose sight of the fact that \u2018less bad\u2019 might not be enough.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/07\/06\/climate\/costco-chicken-bags-sliced-cheese-plastic.html\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When Costco tried to cut down on its plastics use earlier this year, putting its popular rotisserie chicken in a thin bag instead of a bulkier clam shell, some chicken lovers were displeased. The bags were leaky, they said, and risked making a greasy mess. Their edges were prone to splitting open. \u201cChicken juice spilled [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":88976,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"tdm_status":"","tdm_grid_status":"","fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2024\/07\/06\/climate\/06CLI-CHICKEN-PLASTIC\/06CLI-CHICKEN-PLASTIC-facebookJumbo.jpg","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[76925,16955,21845,76926],"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/88975"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=88975"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/88975\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":88977,"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/88975\/revisions\/88977"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/88976"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=88975"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=88975"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=88975"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}