{"id":97955,"date":"2024-07-19T17:13:29","date_gmt":"2024-07-19T17:13:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/19\/postmasters-had-fingers-in-the-till-minister-told\/"},"modified":"2024-07-19T17:13:29","modified_gmt":"2024-07-19T17:13:29","slug":"postmasters-had-fingers-in-the-till-minister-told","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.talkwithrattan.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/19\/postmasters-had-fingers-in-the-till-minister-told\/","title":{"rendered":"Postmasters had fingers in the till, minister told"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/branded_news\/63bd\/live\/06d212c0-45e6-11ef-9252-7f961fbbf5a6.jpg?fit=1024,576&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Postmasters had fingers in the till, minister told\" title=\"Postmasters had fingers in the till, minister told\" \/><\/div><p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Jo Swinson has claimed that former Post Office chief executive Paula Vennells said  \u201csomething to the effect\u201d that some sub-postmasters had \u201ctheir fingers in the till.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Former Liberal Democrat leader said that Vennells told her \u201calthough these might seem to be lovely people, clearly some of them are actually just at it\u201d.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Ms Swinson, who was Postal Affairs Minister between 2012 and 2015 also accused Ms Vennells of failing to tell her about the unreliability of a key witness in the prosecution of sub postmasters.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">She was referring to the former Fuijistu engineer, Gareth Jenkins, who defended the Horizon system in court cases where sub postmasters were sent to prison.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Ms Swinson said Ms Vennells made the comments to her over the phone in the manner of &#8220;taking me into her confidence.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">In 2013, the barrister Simon Clarke KC advised the Post Office that Jenkins was  aware of bugs in the Horizon system and said the IT expert should have disclosed the existence of software bugs to the defence.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Ms Swinson told the inquiry that Ms Vennells should have realised that the Clarke memo demanded \u2018\u2019urgent attention\u2019\u2019 and said \u2018\u2019she never told me\u2019\u2019 about it.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Ms Vennells\u2019 barrister Samantha Leak KC was quick to challenge Jo Swinson about her evidence. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">She said that there was no evidence that Ms Vennells was shown the Clarke advice by the Post Office lawyer Susan Crichton or any of the company\u2019s other lawyers. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Ms Swinson responded that she would have expected a chief executive to have asked to see it.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Former Liberal Democrat leader became emotional whilst giving evidence. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;I\u2019m sorry. I asked lots of questions but that wasn\u2019t enough,&#8221; she said to sub postmasters in the room while holding back tears.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/c4ngr82zedxo\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jo Swinson has claimed that former Post Office chief executive Paula Vennells said \u201csomething to the effect\u201d that some sub-postmasters had \u201ctheir fingers in the till.&#8221; The Former Liberal Democrat leader said that Vennells told her \u201calthough these might seem to be lovely people, clearly some of them are actually just at it\u201d. 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